From ICU Nurse to Fitness Business: Maria's Career Change

Hello everybody. Welcome back to PT Launch Lab. This is a brand new episode and today we are joined by Maria. >> How are we doing? >> I'm really good, thanks. >> Good. So obviously jumping on the podcast, what we like to know about everyone is what they do, the background, everything they love and stuff like that. So if from someone from the outside asked you what you did and who you are. >> Mhm. >> Tell us about that. >> If I start from the beginning, so um I'm an independent nurse prescriber. >> And I started life in intensive care.

So I used to work in intensive care, uh neo inensive care and general intensive care. So, um, worked there for about 4 years and then moved into Multit Trauma as a sister. And just while I were there, I think cuz it's one of those, if I'm just being really honest, it's it's quite a life-changing place to work. You're >> I imagine it's very traumatic in a lot of ways. >> It can be, but I think it's very it makes you reflect a lot on what you want to achieve like yourself in your life. Um, and it definitely did that for me while I working in that environment.

So I think I'd seen people like do you know in in intensive care my age do you know that we're not going to survive and it were like at the end of the day what do you want to achieve? >> Y >> with the people that sat around the bed they'd be like oh I feel like they've been robbed of these opportunities or these situations and I was like do you know what there's so much I want to do I just don't know where to start. >> Yeah. Oh so it gave you like a sense of perspective. >> Yeah massive sense of perspective. And and I kind of just knew that that's not all I wanted to do. um as in just working in environment. I wanted to just do a bit more. Um so I started exploring like avenues of I'm still interested in healthcare and still interested in health but like what else can I do with that and it led me through to working in aesthetics.

So that's how it started. So left the sister's job >> and just went off on my own. >> Yep. Um, and like obviously you work for yourself, so you know that that's like a big dive into the unknown. >> Yeah. Especially if you take that foot out into the unknown. You have to learn while you're doing it. >> And this is it.

So I'd gone from like a really stable job, it was a good job to being like, okay, well, I'm off on my own now, but and and then just start building from there. >> Did you start how long after you obviously had uh your you started your family? Did you start doing all this? with you during or >> Oh, this was before this like before I had my son. Yeah. Yeah. So, and this is eight years ago and he's six.

So, it was two years before I had him. >> Wow. >> Yeah. So, it was like really >> How long were you working in the intensive care? >> So, in total intensive care was for you dependency like 12 months as a sister. >> Do you take a lot away? Like I know Callum mentioned trauma. Do you feel like do you get close to anyone in there at all? Um, and I feel like it's almost like you're losing someone each time as well or it takes a little piece of you each time or I've always been quite interested in that of how much it has effects on you after. >> Oh, mass like again being completely candid.

I had a lot of therapy when I left. >> And I think again it comes out to that sense of perspective, but then it also gives you like this real sense of what's the point. >> Yeah. >> That there is an element of that as well. >> Um, where you're just really like quizzical about everything. >> Yeah. Did it. So, it took me longer. >> Did it make you feel like life's just so much more precious? >> Definitely. Like um >> like you said, all the ages like obviously if you see older people coming and you're a bit obviously no one's expected to be able to die at a certain age, but if you see someone like your own age like you said and you're like wow just >> Yeah, that I think that's more confronting when you can relate to someone that's like a similar age to you or even younger like I think that's quite confronting. I think like if you're looking at it from a a health span perspective like elderly like 75 80 plus it don't feel as tragic they have more stories they they've had more like life to live do you know >> I had this I heard this conversation yesterday morning when I were eating breakfast just with one of my clients and it uh what's more important lifespan or health span so you could so this is like me would you rather it's from like last week I've started this thing though so would you rather live to you are let's say 70 fit and well or live to 80 but you've been in a wheelchair for 20 years. >> I don't know you know because >> there's a lot of lessons >> because it's a great question as well. >> Yeah because we had spinal injuries there too.

So we would often have people at the beginning of their spinal injury they've come from a fit well person to having no use of their limbs. Yeah. >> And I think when they're in that space, they are very much like don't want to be here. Like I'm comparing it to my old life, but then we've met people misquote this guy. He's called Andy, but he works for the spinal unit. >> Yeah. >> At Pinders. >> Yeah. Um and he was he had his own spinal injury and he actually comes to visit people and talk to them at the other side of >> I think that is obviously you still you still got let's say you still got health you so say you are bedridden for 20 years that's a bit of a difference though is it >> I think it's just a comparison though is it because like you said you've got >> there's always some worse this conversation go forever but just yeah but what about if you were this but then you're this but yeah so but from a >> to go back to what you I I 100% I I say this all the time.

If my health decline to a point where cuz it's all about quality of life in it. >> Yeah. >> If you're seeing the same four walls and you're just existing, is that quality of life? And um I had this conversation with a client um one of their relatives are really poorly and they're getting what towards the end of life, but then they keep getting better and keep getting worse and keep getting new medicines, but nothing's going to bring them back to a quality of life. And then we started talking about euthanasia and stuff like that. So as if it was accessible over here, I think a lot more people would be inclined to do that. And there's still the protesting about it now.

If you had the choice where you're at the end of the point and you're not getting any better and you're just hanging around for your friends and relatives and your family, is it not worth having that option in your hand? Because then you're taking control of the situation. I think it's a really hard ethical place to be >> because I think particularly in like the first stages of like an injury as an example. >> Yeah. >> That's devastation. >> Yeah. >> But people can move through the devastation and still have a good quality. >> I don't think you'd be asking them the question like day after they got the news that >> Yeah. Do you want to switch off today or what? Like take me out.

Yeah. So, but >> I broke my arm, bent to the woods. >> That's enough for >> It was dark. >> I think if you had like um a degenerative disease that you know is not going to get any better um depending on what that would look like for you and your family, then maybe that's a totally different. >> Yeah. Like an M andD and stuff like that where it's >> continuously getting worse. And >> yeah, and I do think there's a lot of like like you say, people should be empowered to make choices about how what that looks like. Pro life is it?

You've got Yeah. to be power of your own choices. Go. >> Yeah. No, I I agree with that. >> So, I'm very pro-choice in that way. Like if someone's like, do you know what? I've been hooked up to this machine for 30 years now.

Come on. >> Yeah. People long. Do you see him? We're on that big iron long for like since you were a young kid and he just lived his full life till they were about 70 with that in that big the big iron long thing. >> He did his entire life. >> This is a complete tangent. There's a story of a guy. >> Can I put it on one?

There were a story of a guy as a kid he got into an accident and he lost his penis like right so at the time at the time it was just like they offered him prosthetics >> but now right he's been given like a fully built prosthetic movable usable penis and he's had to wait 20 years for that to happen now in that 20 year gap are you constantly just waiting for the phone call we got the kicks >> we're on death or death row >> like death row waiting for how long have you got to wait to get that phone call we can build it. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. >> We got a different >> Then you're living for that moment. Like you're not living for no reason. You're living because there's going to be a moment in your life where you're like, "Yeah, I get my Venus." >> Yeah. I never thought we'd say that on this podcast.

So, we we'll swing it back around to um if it's a pro life choice, can you get two? >> Yeah. >> Right. But now we talk down. >> So, you had that large change you broke. There's a waiting list. Damn. So, we had that life changing moment and you came out there.

You said you got into aesthetics. >> I know that right now you're in a completely different spot. You got different things going on. So, how did that develop? Because aesthetics is a can be a very niche market anyway and usually people stay in that space. >> So, how what did you develop into? >> H I started doing um just advertising every day. Like it's just that self-promotion.

It's so it's a job on its own. It's really hard work. But I literally had a clinic with no one in it and I was like, "How do I get people here?" And I just had to keep talking. >> Did you start straight away from having your own place? It was like a work from home thing. And >> I'd done a little bit of salon hopping before that.

Um, so I'd been like building up a little bit of a reputation. I were working from a tattoo place. I was working from a beauty therapist and a hairdressers. Um, and actually like that did put me in like a really good place to just network with people and tell them what I was doing, but I just needed a space that I could regulate myself. >> Yeah. >> Um, and just have complete control over it. So that's when I ended up with my own place. >> Always seems to be like different businesses.

There was always different businesses in a tattoo shop and there like started >> we had a tattoo shop in I had a tattoo shop in my last gym. >> We've had we've had everything but opposite way around. >> Yeah. I always see in tattoo shops like someone like there were an artist in one like I'm surprised there's not a mechanic in another like you get a leg piece and at the same place >> they're funny >> but >> that's a really good business idea for the next >> except wall >> yeah you got a 4hour wait sound I get a leg piece >> so I know right now you're into biohacking >> so for someone like me who has no idea what biohacking is What is that? What does that entail? >> I think like biohacking is a buzzword, but what it actually is is you're just manipulating your body's processes in a way that is more conducive to health. The the focus is that you want to be in some way healthier. >> Yeah. >> Um and the way that that started for me in aesthetics was really with things like looking at diet in respect to skin. And a lot of people don't put the two together.

I did um a little walk about recently just interviewing people and was really curious about like how would you look after your skin and the first thing people think of creams, lotions, toners, stuff that you put on but not stuff that you eat. It's the biggest organ in the body. So I'm like why do we not see it as an organ? And that's where it started for me. I started looking at it through the lens of well I've been in a in an environment where I've been looking after multiple organ systems with drugs.

We don't do that with skin. Why are we not doing that with skin? I mean, I know dermatologists do this in a slightly different way, but I mean, from an aesthetics perspective, we don't we shouldn't just be putting creams on people to try and get a result with the need to have good diet, need good nutrition, need to be exercising. It's all of those precursors >> cuz obviously your skin care, especially like when you're going through puberty and stuff like that and everyone talks about how much of a rage it is, it's all hormonal imbalances and things firing. M. >> So obviously diet can have a massive impact on your hormonal balance as well. >> Yeah.

So relating that back to biohacking specifically, I see that as a form of biohacking. Like I'm getting someone in clinic, they've got acne. I'm looking at them and been like, what system is not working properly that's generating your acne. You don't just get acne for no reason. You just wait with it one day.

There's a set of processes that have happened that have led to that like outbreak or whatever it is. Um, so then it's it's manipulating that. So it' be like the majority of people that I see and I'm, you know, generalizing here, but we do test for it. Food intolerances, food sensitivities will look back and go to gut health. Start stripping it right back and being like, okay, well, what are you allergic to?

Let's, you know, remove that for a while. Let's do some gut healing. So start putting in supplements that are conducive to healing and then reintroduce them and see what happens. And most of the time they do heal. Why do you think especially now in modern age that people have such uh intolerances and like complete disassociation from their food groups?

Cuz we're finding more often now, you know, if you ask someone 50 years ago if you had a gluten intolerance and they're eating out of a tin of spam. Like what's the difference now? Like why why have we suddenly become so sensitive to food groups? >> Depends how you want me to answer this. >> Truthfully. >> Truthfully. Yeah. >> Food's full of [\h__\h] >> Yeah. >> It's just full of additives, full of preservatives, full of nonfoods. They're called products for a reason.

It's not food. >> Yeah. I see I assume one recent and I think it were an orange and it had uh eight ingredients. >> No. Like was >> wild, isn't it? >> Yeah. >> Absolutely wild. >> It was crazy as that though. Is it just whatever makes it stay on the shelf longer? So, >> it is.

Um, >> and I think like when you're loading a body that's never been exposed to that with these things, why would you not expect it to start doing weird things, >> start doing weird stuff? >> See, ever since having Iowa, I've been eating more and more like the baby food section. You know why? Cuz it's got the most minimally processed foods in it and it's it's like the lowest calorie best food. And our food is really good. I'm surprised I was actually getting at that point. >> But uh yeah, it's become a market really.

And I mean you see it all day every day now with the fitness market has really drove drove into supermarkets cuz everything says high protein. Yeah. Like you can get high protein popcorn now. >> Yeah. >> But there's no nutritional value to it and you know it's all the multipliers and blockers and >> Yeah. And I understand where the health side goes from. So do you so with your practice then are you mainly focus on getting people's education up on what actually is a good food. >> Yeah.

So we focus in on whole foods, anti-inflammatory foods, things that you can add in, not just take out. A lot of people will focus on restriction. Like I'm sure you see this all the time. And that's not always the way to do it. So we don't restrict anything.

We try and like remove things that are definite allergens. If they're not though, we'll add in anti-inflammatory foods. >> I think that's the problem with people with all these food craze like carnivore only a year ago was one of the highest rated things that people were doing. >> Do you think that's kind of dropped off radar though when it like and I know it's not a fad, but it >> Yeah. >> You think it came in right big and then everyone started trying to whenever there's something that comes up that's supposed to be good, everyone tries to find holes in it, don't they? >> Yeah. It's it's the biggest marketing flaw ever. like this diet will fix your problems and all it's doing is reducing your calorie intake and your gluten index and it works for a certain amount of time. It's like a reset. Same as like we have a fasted day. >> Yeah. >> It it's it fixes immediate problems, >> but it's not a long-term sustainable thing because all three major macronutrients are essential in your body, >> but you can't cut one out completely and expect to live a lifestyle.

And then people go back saying, well, our ancestors were hunting and doing this. Yeah, they also lived in grass skirts and lived in houses. You got central eating in a microwave. >> Yeah, exactly. It's different. >> Times change of evolution now, Joe. Everything's evolving always.

So, >> I don't think it's evolving in the right direction that really like we're definitely getting sicker. >> Yeah. >> So, like from a physical perspective, I know we've got more medicine available, but I wouldn't say we're necessarily like >> Well, Russell Graham put it perfectly. He put on one of his podcast. He was talking about the COVID and everything that happened there and he listed every company that profited highly from COVID. So pharmaceutical companies, they had the biggest profit they've had in 50 years. The military had the biggest profit they had in 50 years.

And he says, "If you can make money out of basically despair and a whole world shutting down, do you not see the problem between it being a pandemic?" >> Yeah. >> And also a profit. There shouldn't be profit in a pandemic. >> No. Like it should be like for the people. It's obviously not. It's for the business.

Well, they were still trying to get us all to buy the mass, even though they were the ones saying they don't work. But then >> they they'd already invested that much money into it that it only made sense for them. >> I think that's why they never doubled down on the whole COVID passport thing, like you can't leave the country unless you had so many jobs. That that went away pretty quick. Yeah. >> And we thought, oh, the life could be regulated now. If you haven't got two jobs, you can never leave the country. >> But it just removes bodily autonomy, didn't it? like it was I mean you can't consent to something that you don't understand. >> I think once you start getting into that territory of like enforcing stuff like that it's no longer like consensual through fear and that's not okay. >> What's your view on peptides? >> Um so I I like the idea of peptides like I like the research around peptides.

I just want them to be approved. >> Yeah. What peptides are you backing the most? Obviously there's too many to name and and obviously we're talking about GLP ones and stuff like that. >> What's your view mainly on those as well cuz obviously they're the rage right now. >> Got to be careful about how I feel about GLP ones because I don't hate them. >> I just hate how they're used >> the application. >> So um I hate that they're available without any support. >> Um and that people are actually getting quite serious side effects from them. And I've seen these directly from like some of my patients in clinic. And I won't like obviously tell you who they are, but some of them had gallstones, some of them had need the gallbladder out, like some of them have been septic, some of them have been hospitalized with low blood sugars.

And I think there's a massive um proportion of people that need like you guys as they should be having GLP ones with nutrition and poor >> 100%. I mean it's it's always difficult conversation because it sounds too good to be true because you know it is >> if you got given a golden ticket and say look you don't have to exercise you take this you're going to not want to eat as much >> it sounds like the fix to everything. >> Yeah the look and body positivity change rapid as well doesn't it? >> Everyone was just happy in their own skin all of a sudden were happy to lose weight with no exercise weren't there. So, >> and this is it. I think like if you you're looking at it from a health perspective, it's not healthy to do that. Like GLP ones obviously they they do what they're supposed to do, but that don't necessarily equate to health. >> Like that's not making people better.

Sometimes it's making people sicker cuz thyroids are broken. >> I saw a quote on Instagram and I don't 100% agree. It says most aesthetical pursuits don't tend to reflect health. >> I think somewhere in between there's a bit of truth there. Like I think to an extreme I think the lengths that people go to, you know, the extreme dieting, the extreme obviously use of anabolics, GP1s, whatever, take it to a point where they're not thinking about what's happening inside. >> This is it. >> Yeah. >> And and that's a short-term fix, isn't it? I think that's the thing. Like, you're going to lose weight in, you know, rapid time, but then, you know, six is >> got thyroid discc as well.

Like I there's so many people I know that are now selling gel like >> you know you got beauty salons selling it. >> I know >> you know I've I've got friends who work in like coffee shops and stuff like oh also stock. >> I don't like that side of it just purely because it's profit over um principal know like >> and you're not qualified. >> It's going back to the same thing and also you you don't know every single person reacts different to every single medicine or whatever it is antibiotics or anything on on any one of them levels. So for you to just go, oh yeah, you could take that. Like you don't know enough about them. You don't know, you're not a doctor. Do you know what I mean?

So just to do it, like you said, just from these beauty places and stuff, they're like, I hope you cut weight and all of a sudden these fat loss experts, they're not just here, take this and do you know what I mean? Discredits our job. >> Yeah. >> And everything. So and and it also takes that work from, well, what's putting going to a PT when I can just do this? But that's not >> but they're not getting the muscles like in like they're losing like any lean muscle and mass distinguish between like >> from our point it seems quite obvious and silly but um from their point people again who were I bring it back to body positivity we're all beautiful in his own skin and then and because they didn't want to train and then all of a sudden they can lose weight we're doing the same amount of effort which is zero now all of a sudden it's a good thing and everyone should take it their thoughts >> I think it's a common questioning, do you want to look better or live longer? >> Yeah. >> Well, there's that. And then how long are you going to look better for?

Yeah. >> Cuz that doesn't last for a long time. >> Plus, it can it looks like you're going to age you and all and all. >> Well, it does, doesn't it? Because like if you look at >> drawn drawn faces and stuff and again, I think every individual is different. Like I know some people who've had it and they look fantastic from it. Yeah. Uh and they've they built up on it correctly.

They come off it correctly. Um they've done all the right things. They're still trained. They've increased protein. Everything they should have done, they've done it right.

Yeah, but >> then we've also got I'd probably say the majority that just go right quick fix easy don't even want to know the side effects like they've got no interest. All they see is the benefit and they're like well I'm just going to get on this till I get the free stone off and then I'm going to stop or they don't like it's just >> they keep going and then they still don't eat properly. They're not addressing the nutritional difficult. >> No, they're literally malnutritious cuz then they get purely obsessed. It becomes a disorder where they don't eat because they put the weight on or they get addicted to losing weight that much quicker. They're up in doses because they're like at some point it's going to slow down and then they're like, "Oh, but it's stopping.

I'll put even more in. I'll lose even more weight." And all they're thinking about is that's there's no side effect on back of that. But >> that's the key word though, is it? It's obsession. >> Yeah. They get obsessed with what they're seeing rather than how they're feeling.

Most of these people that you speak to as well that are getting all these great results, they feel terrible. But I think there's a big like gap in between where they're still not making that like mind body connection >> and it's directly feeding back into that where they're like not associating feeling really tired with being anemic, needing to eat more meat or like they just need to physically eat more. >> Yeah. >> Like they're not say saying all this um for anyone is watching Louis on it. So I've also seen the other effect where it is again becomes obsession but also obsession that they are starting to look after this more. >> Yeah. Exactly. No, like they that just sometimes just they kickstart the knee they start they go oh well imagine if I I've lost all this fat imagine if I train trained at gym now and and this going on some beds I mean again it's not great for you but just to look yeah no so um but in terms of uh all these obsessions to just try to look better feel better whether it's uh outside inside um for me and I've seen lots of people do that and they look great >> I don't hate them like I think they're great used well like and used with supervision and all the accessory support that you need that can be amazing they just need the right support >> 100% like a guy that had a 15 stone weight loss >> like through using GLPS >> he'd reversed his diabetes he was he wanted to have children with his partner like you know his his metabolic system had tanked out because of his you know severe obesity reversed it all >> see that's where it makes sense to me that's why the NHS should provide it but if you're getting Joel Blogs who just put on a bit of weight over Christmas >> and it can't be asked question. >> Yeah, that's it.

And in terms of access, it doesn't matter anyway cuz the NHS cannot give you it. You'll get it from somewhere else, probably cheaper. And the thing is, you can't stop that. But having the education behind you about you need to know the risks just in case. And yes, they there can be minimal risk, but if you're not educating yourself on what you should be doing and how you should be doing it, >> you're going to get hurt. >> Yeah.

Like you're physically going to injure your body. So, swinging back around to your business then. >> Yeah. Where where do you stand now? What's the if you just take take us in like a bit of a more of a deep dive into um either are you planning to expand? Are you planning to kind of doing what you're doing?

Is it got more branches to the business? What's >> it's more branches now. So, what's actually happened is so alongside the aesthetics, I started doing like a bit of practice nursing just on the side while things were building up. And I actually really enjoyed that environment again because you get the opportunity to like dissect people's health a little bit more. >> But when it's like conventional medicine like NHS, I just don't have time as in I'm on time limits. You know, you've got 15inute appointment.

I've got to try and unpick all your habits and behaviors in 15 minutes and try hope that next year your blood's better. Like to me that don't make sense. >> Mhm. >> So I stepped away from that environment. And I actually found a GP who practices functional medicine which is looking at the whole body from a completely different perspective. Um so you come in with I don't know you're getting acid reflux. She's looking at your whole digestive system.

She's looking at your sleeping habits, stress levels, what you're drinking through the day. Like it's just a more detailed dive into health. >> Cuz they're starting to look at the blood work now, aren't they? Especially for nutritionists. >> Yeah. The blood work tells you everything that your body's doing and what you need to eat to get better at that. >> Yeah. All of these types of things.

So, you can look at urine, you can look at blood, you can look at stools, you can see how your body is physically metabolizing things, if they are >> being metabolized or not. Um, if your liver is detoxing or not, all this kind of stuff. So, um, found her by accident at a conference. I just wanted to go learn about longevity in respect to what I was doing in aesthetics. and um I had a chat with her after and she offered me a job and that's how that came about. So I've been working with her for coming up to a year now >> privately just do that one day a week. >> Um but that's directly fed into what I was trying to achieve with Behold Me.

So like trying to look at the skin through a different lens through the eyes of like your nutrition off, do you need more electrolytes and all that kind of stuff. >> What are you limited to? So with your business, I know obviously from a PT perspective, we can only advise, nutritional advice. We can't give you what to eat, where to eat. >> What's your limitations in terms of what you can prescribe and do? Like what other qualifications did you have to get to be able to give this advice? >> So I mean like I am a registered nurse and I'm a registered prescriber. So supplements and things I'm careful with because I'm not a nutritional therapist.

You know, that's a branch of >> uh education on its own. like they go and get degrees. Same as dieticians, like there is a full degree dedicated to that. Um, so I'm careful in that I'm not saying like this is all you need. I'm saying like these are whole foods. These are things that you could be eating and I signpost them to other professionals if they need more nutritional support.

But I I think for my role, I'm very comfortable in saying these are the foods that you can eat. I think that'd be really ridiculous as a as a nurse to not be able to tell people what whole foods are. >> So, this is an interesting one then. So, you from your perspective in your profession, what would you advise PTS to research and get clued up on that would help their clients even more from just the exercise perspective? Oh, there's loads, but I think the one that I've kind of narrowed it down to is like effects on co from causal >> on the body because I feel like um again, this is a generalization. It's just from what I've seen when people are putting out these programs, 12week fat loss program.

They're just diving into a calorie deficit with people. I'm not saying you do that, but I I see this a lot. They'll be like, "Oh, do you know 12week program, you'll lose this amount of weight." And they go into a hard calorie deficit and they lose no weight and they're not appreciating that the body's already in a state of stress and they don't repair the stress. So, I think for me as a a health care professional, I see people that are running on nothing. They're just running on causal. >> They're not having any repair of that and then they're being thrown into a stressful environment metabolically by putting them into like a calorie deficit.

What are some run through tips and if you had to give three tips to help people with the cortisol straight away, what would it be? >> Uh, good sleep routine. >> So, uh, let's go. >> Do I have children? >> They're still with us, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, they're still with us. What's next? >> Yeah. Any other options?

I >> mean, this isn't um this isn't an ideal. Well, >> this will break in a few years time. >> I'll re Yeah, I'm going to rewatch this in a couple years. >> You got to try and prioritize sleep. Sleep is core. Like that is number one. I would say your sleep is is is really important. >> Try to sleep regular time >> maybe plus or minus.

If you get any hours, it doesn't matter where they are. >> Yeah. >> Morning light. It's really underestimated >> unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Moo. >> I've I just had a load of blood work done and um I'm actually partway through um through reading it all down and um everyone's like vitamin D is down and it everybody. >> So I mean we're not a great country for that.

But the thing is and I've seen it already today. It's 16° outside. The sun's out. >> No sunglasses on. >> No, but they're blocking out the light. We've just waited all the time for the light. >> Like it regulates our circadian rhythm. That's when it would developing me. >> I know this.

This is what you get as though people when they see it suddenly like I'm in a better mood all the time but you genuinely are though aren't you? It's not. It's not just you think it's cuz you genuinely are in a better mood because of the extra bit. >> But it's regulating your stress hormones as well. >> Yeah. >> So you know that that physical light exposure regulates cortisol. It you know it's your signal at night time when the sun goes down to start developing melatonin. That's our natural sleep hormone. >> So that's where I'm like just get outside 10 minutes.

You need 10 minutes for your body to just be like sun's out. cause all starts to, you know, do its thing. >> Cognitive functions, stuff like that. >> Yeah. But it's to reset your body. Like we've got phones now. We've got screens all the time. We've got like lot of light pollution. >> Even earthing, you know, going out.

Yeah. Grounded. >> No, ground. Is that what it is? Grounding. So, is that a real thing?

I've just said about grounding. >> Yeah. So, I I know there's a guy on my street, Tony. Shout out to Tony. Um, and he does it with his kids and stuff in the morning. But I love stuff like I just never think to do it, but I'd love to just >> you feel the difference. >> If I could do I'd have a brilliant morning routine me.

So that's that would be always my goal like if I had the option to do it where my little girl didn't come wake me up and like do you know what I mean? Send me doing all these jobs straight away. But um if not that would be my main thing would be just a great morning routine. I can do the best with what I've got like uh but I usually start me routine after me first PT you know what I mean which is a bit too late then but um yeah that would be a massive one for me I love what like the things you're saying there I thought we're already visioning myself doing it so I'm really big on that like if I feel good I want to feel great you know like >> yeah so like sleep morning like ideally you want to be seeing the sunset as well can't always do that that's fine but it's just to try and get some exposure >> we're all busy at three o'clock in the afternoon Um what would the third be? >> Third one >> for stress specifically. >> Yeah, just uh so basically helping the clients. So what what would your three big things be?

You say your third can be anything. Just throw it in there. >> I think it has to be nutrition. >> Just has to be nutrition. You need good sleep, you need sunlight, and you need good food. >> But what specifically about? So this is the tough part cuz when >> we're training new PTs, it's usually they get caught up in the social media nutrition side. So you know, cut your calories down, do this, eat carnivore.

Like if you like to give like a rundown to improve someone's health. >> Yeah. >> Almost immediately. Yeah. What would it be in terms of >> if it's from the perspective of cortisol being high, you've got to think about your adrenal glands. So what they need? So they need B vitamins.

Um they need vitamin D, they need magnesium, they need vitamin C. >> So >> would you prescribe that getting that from food? Cuz this is a correlation. This is a problem. Like people think they can just take tablets all the time. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But they're not getting it from the food.

So they're just replacing a sauce, but it doesn't get absorbed just as well, does it? >> This is it. So what I tend to do is I put them on like the whole food version with things like digestive enzymes. >> Yeah. >> To try and help them physically break it down if they've got a digestive problem >> so they get more out of physical food. >> Would you ever um think about getting like your own supplement brand? >> It's such a like another spin-off of like everything I do. But yeah, I've thought about it is the quality. >> I I'm just one of them, mate. I just like once I get one idea me I'm just constantly running and what again like I said earlier branches like well if I'm suggesting these magnesiums or zms or whatever and I'm like >> why not that's what we did with the courses that's why we've ended up here it literally um we were going to just do um >> going to be an an enrollment uh company we were going to help refer referral side of it then we were like oh yeah and then this tutor comes in we're like oh well maybe we could do the tutor as Well, and then all of a sudden, oh, maybe we can get higher up board and almost start a podcast, but this is like we're exactly the same. So, soon as you said that, I thought, well, cuz some supplements like it's my mind all over. >> It's the same idea of knowing there's a gap somewhere.

Yeah. >> And knowing there's a quality of service. So, ours, you know, PTS aren't getting the education to actually build a business rather than just get a certificate. where for you especially it's people don't know how the body works to a way that they can help their body from the inside out without needing million tablets drugs going into the system. >> So I thought about maybe doing it from more of an educational perspective and just teaching people like >> why you're eating what you're eating and like what you can add in to your like whole foods to change your body. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um but it just takes you down a rabbit hole, doesn't it? >> Yeah, of course. >> It's endless. Well, like like what I'm just saying, it's uh for us where where not should in gaps market. It sounds like it's sort of >> something to make more money, but we just feel like it's something that everyone should should be benefiting from. >> With other nurses like they're obviously offering very similar services, >> but it's slightly different the lens that I'm trying to look through. >> Yeah. >> Um and I think that is missing. >> Yeah.

Well, that's again it's we can look at as a gap market or you can look at something like you've just noticed that you feel like people need you should be offered that. Um, it's whichever way you look at it perspective wise, but that's exactly what happened with us. That's why I just thought of that very random question for you then about your supplements. >> Cuz I'm in loads of groups and they'll be putting up faces and you know it's almost like the same person that they keep putting in and they've got really bad like example rosacea and there's so many things that affect rosacea. They're like, "What cream can I put on this?" And I'm like, >> it's not even considering that they might have really high histamines. They might have allergies.

Like >> that's just the conditioning they're in, aren't they? that if there's something wrong with there's a cream or a tablet cuz you know when someone gets a headache at like midday they take a paracetimal raid but they don't drink a bit more. >> Yeah. But even that they maybe go drink water and not think that they're missing minerals. >> Jess still to this day bearing in mind I've been a PT for years. Soon as she tells me she's got a headache like I've be drunk enough water. She tries to swing for me instantly. >> Yeah. >> My husband's the same like oh my head hurts. I'm like I know you've just had air today. >> Yeah. >> You have had no liquid. >> Yeah.

Yeah, >> it's so biggest question about your business then if you had to start again and it got all taken away from you. What would you do differently? Now, we've asked these questions before and the most interesting answer I've got. If I didn't make the mistakes I made, I wouldn't be where I am now. But maybe there's something that you could have done differently to take you on a different path. >> I have thought about this.

I feel like I'd maybe doing a bit more nutritionally >> with people. Um, and maybe wouldn't be specifically in aesthetics. I'd maybe be like working in still in like injuries and stuff. I don't know. Still in still in health.

I think I see myself. Yeah. >> Um, if I have not if I had to start over. >> That's me. Sorry. >> All right. >> Turn it off. >> Spam. >> It's a spam. Um, >> go back three burner phone. >> What other businesses do you go? Some my supplement.

That's the side of a business. It's a thing now. Don't have a podcast for other. Yeah. Yeah.

So, so it's good that you're saying nutrition that you wish you' got more point at nutrition because it just shows everything that you've said truthful and uh how bene beneficial you actually believe that nutrition is and you wish you knew more in it. It's uh it's very honest and also I think it looks really good for you that you know that you that you said nutrition's one probably the key best key element and then if you could go back in time you do more in nutrition everything just lined up perfect to what you said then >> I feel like I wish I'd have known more about that in the beginning I think that's what it is like I feel like I started not really knowing in the direction I wanted to go >> learning where I am now and I'm like oh if I'd have just maybe done I don't know some some more nutritional courses or I don't know starting off as a PT I don't know just some something more in line with that >> so just towards the end so we're getting >> actual footboard is how it look >> I know >> I've actually thought about this is great >> so at the end of every podcast now we want to ask people questions about PT so I know you've had a PT before but so I want to know your experience your and your hate and you can be as honest as you want because Again, someone's going to hear this who might be a PT or wants to be a PT. We want to sort of ruffle out what actually works, what actually don't. So, what did you like most about having a PT? >> The accountability for sure. >> Like I am just someone that works from someone texting me and like where are you? >> Like are you going to be here in like next five minutes? I'm like [\h__\h] Yeah. >> Like that that keeps me accountable.

So that I need it for that. >> Yeah. >> Otherwise, I'm just my own worst enemy. So with that being said, so make sure there's not you're not letting them let you down too much. Obviously punctuality is very important for us. So if you get PT who keeps swapping your time, so that would be a massive issue. >> Oh, like I would cancel them within 24 hours. Like that really pisses me off. >> Yeah.

Don't look into camera with looking at you. Yeah, >> so what did you hate most about your time with the PT if you had to generalize it? >> Probably the same thing. really >> like it's a me. Oh [\h__\h] I've got to get up at like half 5 in the morning. But yeah, >> that's okay. That's a you problem. >> Yeah.

Yeah, it is. Um, what do I hate? I suppose just cuz my life's really busy, like the flexibility is poor. So having to book in same time every week's quite hard. Yeah, if you've got um a busy PT sometimes not being able to and almost >> puts a stress on your own schedule because you're like, "Oh, well, they can only do 4:00, but I was supposed to be here at 6:00." And then you've got a whole new situation of problems. >> Yeah.

And it's and I know that's just like trying to keep it as a priority. >> Yeah. >> But then life just happens, doesn't it? Bit tricky. So, if you had to get a PT again, >> what would you expect from them as a professional? >> Probably a nightmare client to be honest. >> Probably a bit quicker than the >> um I don't know like I'm interested in the functions of the body so I expect them. >> You want to know everything? Yeah. >> So, if they're telling me to do what I'm doing, in the back of my mind I'm like, why am I doing this? >> Yeah. >> It's not necessarily need to know for everyone. I like to know.

Yep. >> See, PTS love those people, but we also love the people that don't care. >> Yeah. >> Um I I love explaining because there's nothing I like more than people asking me about the certain thing that I'm passionate about. But then you also get the opposite side of it where you get a client who's like, "What's this for?" Which for your ass? Fantastic. >> That's all I need to know. >> Yeah. >> What's more important to you? Consistency or intensity? >> Consistency for sure. Like I've I've experienced both in my life >> like and when I'm really intense with my training it just kills me off. >> Yeah. >> So if consistent then I'll keep going. >> I reckon 90% say consistency you know it's just cuz it's the harder one as well though is it but it's most it can be the slower version >> but it lasts the longest. >> I love intensity like the the training intensity that I like before were amazing.

Loved it but wrote me off. That body can't keep up. >> Yeah. and the accountability thing can go down then cuz if you're not feeling 100% you don't think you're quite capable of managing through the sessions. So I think there needs to be back and forth with PT there. >> I think that's an experience thing as well cuz I think we've always said this that when you first start out as PT if your client doesn't look like they're sweating and they're tired and this and that. You feel like you've not done your job in that moment. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But the point is it's not like you know yourself when you train yourself.

You're getting the results that you want through consistency. And you don't have to leave every session feel like you're going to drop. So it does make sense, but especially someone starting out, they think that they need to kill each client that they're bringing because they're going to walk away going, "Yeah, that's exactly what I needed." >> That's what >> some people it's just showing up, isn't it? Like as in showing up for yourself, I think is the deeper message that like that's the consistency. >> Absolutely. >> And then the one last one then, so this actually ties into your job. >> Okay. >> Biggest fitness myth that you disagree with. Time to think about that. >> Soon as you walk out, you think of a beauty. >> Yeah. >> You'll be like, >> "Fia Smith." Well, I suppose it has to tie into the intensive like harder is better and it's not like um I've met people that are like I'll give menopause as an example. >> Unless you're a hybrid rockstar. >> Let's not.

Sorry. Can you cut that bit? >> The eye roll was a bit >> We're keeping in. >> Yeah. This is no offense to anyone. Okay, it's camera offense. Let's go. >> That's just my personal feelings.

Um, it's that it's that like intense is not better. Like the individual person might suffer from the intensity. So, I think that is a myth. Powder is better. >> Yeah. 100%. So, just as a last one, tell everybody where you are, what you're doing, where can find you, social media links, anything you want because just your chance to plug it in so people can find you. >> Oh gosh, I'm everywhere.

Right. Okay. Um, so I own Behold Me Aesthetics based in Gera. I'm the sole practitioner there. So that's where I do all my skin treatments, all my injectables, Botox, fillers, all of that kind of stuff.

Then I've got Soozo Clinic, a department in Hedinley where I do medical laser resurfacing, lesions, uh, blroplastes upper and lower. We have surgeons there, legitimate surgeons. Um, where else am I? I am in Dr. Indra clinic in lead city center at Wellington Place that is a functional medicine facility. >> I have never had someone put in a plug.

That was just so many stuff. That was brilliant. >> Oh, thanks. >> Imagine I'm glad you got it out in one go as well. That that took a few breaths for me. >> But thank you so much for coming on really. >> Thanks. >> And I hope to see you again with more biohacking tips. >> Oh god. Yeah. Like hopefully the legalized peptides soon. >> This is PT Launch Lab whatever episode.

Thank you for coming.