From Addiction to Full-Time Boxing Coach: Pembo's Story

Right, everybody. Welcome back PT Launch Lab. I don't know. I'm not sure what episode we're on, so we're just going to uh get straight into it. But I'm joined today with my friend Pembo. >> Good to see you, Ray. >> How we doing, mate? >> Good, mate.

Is this your first podcast? Yeah, first cut podcast. >> All right. So, uh, last, like I've just said to you before we started, mate, I'm just going to go right from where we are today. So, everyone I sort of bringing, I try to get around fitness industry, whether it's if they're competing in a sport or the PT and then what we'll do is we'll go back through all all nice uh >> oldies. Yeah.

Best stuff. >> Yeah. So, most yeah, most of the stuff can't be said on camera. Uh, but yeah, mate. So, where are we from today? Obviously, you've had your stints in your boxing. >> Although I was meant to be fighting this month, um training hard for it.

Got down to 80 kg. I was like eight weeks out flying. Felt lovely. Unfortunately, I tore my bicep. So, I was out meant to have surgery.

It's thrown me off the boxing track a little bit. So, I've just fully locked into the fitness side of it again. Kept my fitness on point. >> So, is uh >> not really. So, can you not box now for >> Well, it I feel like I've got the strength back, >> but it's not 100%. >> What about the feet? >> Yeah, still flex. >> He's actually gone now. The bicep.

Let's >> have a look. Give it Give him to camera. There we go. >> Gone completely. So, if my opponent's watching, I didn't puss it out. It actually snapped. >> Obviously, >> we can't deny that, can't we?

So, obviously I've seen your Burns boot camp. So, obviously, do you take part in them and teach it? >> Yes. So basically I went to birds boot camp a year ago just off the cuff randomly turned up booked on for a session [\h__\h] absolutely loved it literally fell in love with the place the community the environment everything started training there so I train there four times a week now and I run a boxing class on a Wednesday >> on a Wednesday evening so >> I also I help out occasionally if there's like a big event on with it >> I know they do like the Um the in-house like high rock sort of stuff as well. >> No, they don't do high rocks. They do they do a competition called Fitness of Fury which is literally savage as [\h__\h] >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um and then they have like what Berno does is he'll have like a a mushet camp for the ladies. >> Yeah. >> And then he'll put a mushet camp.

It's a right name in it. It's a good crack as well actually. Um and then he'll get a DJ in. DJ will play and it's basically you're partying without any drugs, any alcohol. Yeah.

Just buzzing off dopamine from >> Best way, mate. Best way. It's an amazing setup. >> Oh, good. So, and what's your >> what's your relationship down with Golden Team? Obviously, I seen you there the other day.

We both trained out at Gold Team. You obviously you teach out with Golden Team as well. So, obviously that'll be probably your longest time you spent at a gym, won't it? >> Oh, definitely. Yeah, I love Golden Team. Golden Team [\h__\h] is where I started when I left the army.

Uh, obviously P, good mate, owner of the gym, Par Mcdana. Uh, I've trained with P over the years. Um, and now I've left the employment that I was working as a delivery driver. I'm now a full-time boxing coach cuz my client base just got so busy. >> Yeah. >> That I didn't have time for the other work and I actually enjoy doing the boxing coaching. So, I just mate into it. >> Oh.

Oh, you're passionate about as well. And it's um that's why I wanted to get you on mate. I would I tell everyone who I say I just say obviously I know where it's all come from and like in your partying days and stuff like that and like you the energy that you've got when you're training people I I've never seen one session whether you're in a group session in front of like 100 people shout or you've got one in it's exactly the same level of energy and where is that if it's one 10 or 100 they're all paying the same money they all deserve the same experience you know what I mean and for me if a client came in and I don't get me wrong I'll have days where I'm feeling a bit flat, but I'll put my emotions to one side and I'll just put them like literally five minutes before a session I might feel like [\h__\h] Soon as that client walks in door, I'm like right [\h__\h] >> Yeah, that's you sort of you make it hard for you. I'm exactly the same. And I think you've got to be like that.

Like don't get me wrong, but sometimes it's almost forced, but that's what people expect and that's why they buy into you. They pay for the personality, don't they? So it definitely like listen I've I've been where I've seen coaches in the past where you turn up and they're like do this do that and the way I say don't even want to be there. >> Yeah. And they're on the phone 24/7 and I think [\h__\h] hell if you had got no energy. Oh, you expected me. >> I'm not saying you should be motivated by someone else 247, >> but if you're looking at your coach and he's [\h__\h] >> and and also >> Yeah. motivated in it. >> Also, you um you become obviously it's always a joke within like fitness community like you become like a counselor, don't you?

But yeah, >> but like >> I go from being gay counsel to counseling [\h__\h] hundreds now. So that's what but it's like it I've seen it go the other way as well with um where the clients almost counseling the PT where they come in and they're down the worst I've seen it >> I'm not name known names like this like other gyms I've been to on bodybuilding uh PTS and they're coming in and they're coming how you feeling you're like [\h__\h] I'm on low carbs thinking I think no one ask you what carbs you're on and they can't wait to tell them like I mean I feel like unless I'm out of the loop I feel like that phase has passed But wow, I used to that would my biggest pet a in the gym war that people had um soon as you come out on that because sometimes like I don't get me wrong I don't mind listening to people's stories. Yeah. Because when they're coming to the gym Yeah. They're not probably as always coming just to work out.

They're coming to like a little bit of therapy. Nine times out of 10 the majority of people are coming to get away from the birds. fact. So, they're going to have a little spill about whatever's going on in their life. >> But when it becomes 24/7, >> negativity breeds negativity. And if you're listening to someone rabbiting on, it's like you start taking that burden on. You have to have a balance.

But the more you start entertaining it, [\h__\h] hell, the worse it get. You go from hearing about someone's low carb to hearing about a divorce, [\h__\h] finances, the job. It's a like you just said a good way to look at is just having a good balance in it and people know you like voting life. >> Yeah. Yeah. Of course it is.

And you can tell people as well like I'm slightly different say when it comes to fight week. I'm a little bit more serious, a little bit less leeway in terms of if someone's slacking, which I used to be really bad for that. I used to lose loads of loads of clients, right? When I were training for a fight and then they'd be halfway through a round, they just stop. I couldn't deal with it in me head because but what I had to do is separate how I am compared to other people because they're not all training for fights >> and also different mindsets completely.

You're in fight week. So your bias set in that is like >> they Yeah. And they just most people like exact just said they just they want to get away. They've got one hour in their life where they're not thinking about bills. They're not thinking about the kids.

They're not thinking about what they're making fun. They're coming just to have a good time and they've got an hour where their brain's completely relaxed. >> Well, this is the thing now with fitness as well. Like I don't know if you've noticed but in the last year it just it maybe cuz I'm getting older and I my my circles have changed. Yeah. But no one's really asked for going out now getting pissed and getting [\h__\h] up.

Everyone the the social thing now is training together. And I think back 10 years ago and if I [\h__\h] mentioned to any of my mates come on let's go and have a session on a Saturday morning in rain ling around they'd gone [\h__\h] hell he's lost his mind. Do you know what I'm saying? But this is the thing. It everyone's evolving, aren't they?

And like everyone's getting into the fitness industry and it's good. It's good to see, >> right, mate? Do you know what? That is a perfect time to drag it right back in it. >> Yeah. So, >> but let's um let's How did First of all, mate, how did we get here?

So, you So, you become Peter, your full-time boxing coach, right? >> How did we get here, though? So, how did this all all this fitness thing come about? Were it to get you out of a bad place? What What were the old habits? I sort of know, but obviously if anyone want to >> Everyone knows anyone knows.

So I left it I joined the army when I was 16. Joined the infantry. Cut I cut that bit short. I left when I was 24. I got a little stint in jail in the army. [\h__\h] up making stupid decisions.

Uh left the army and I would just I had no purpose, nothing. So, I dipped my So, I boxed in the army, but I dipped my toe back into boxing when I left the army. And it kind of kept me on the straight and narrow a little bit, but I still didn't feel like I had any purpose, even though I had kids and I had all sorts going on in my life. >> Yeah. >> And then before you know it, alcohol, I going out every weekend. I was living theing Jack the Lad life. I was sniffing every weekend.

And before you know it, that becomes >> every four weeks. It becomes every two weeks. Then it becomes every one week. Yeah. >> And then next thing you're in your bedroom watching [\h__\h] porn on your own sniffing coke. Do you know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> Right.

Uh and I just fell into a bad habit. So at the time whilst that was happening, I was working for DPD and I'll be honest with you, I had actually said this, but I kind of hit rock bottom. And I believe you have to hit hit rock bottom to want to change. Loads of times. I think I'm going to change, but I never really hit rock bottom.

And what happened for me is I went out one night. Uh Tyson Fury was fighting Usk the very first fight and I went out and I'd been I went to watch the some tie boxing and I I drink on sniff uh and I were out with one of the lads from gym and I got in a bit of a fight with him right and I hit him and if I caught him on the end of his nose broke his nose fractured his eye socket and he fell back and he banged his head and honestly he hit the floor right and he banged his head bad and we took him into hospital and they were like [\h__\h] out. I'm thinking, "Oh, [\h__\h] me. I've killed him." >> Yeah. >> And I thought, "Wow." Imagine if he'd had died. Yeah.

From throwing one punch recklessly, pissed up, sniffed up. >> He was all right. Thank [\h__\h] >> But that for me was my rock bomb. And that was like, listen, this needs to change. This needs to stop. >> So I just fully locked into training. >> So were this drinking. >> So were this like >> So obviously you just come out of army, you get into your boxing. Was it more so I used to find not not always to a mad extreme state but between fights that's when like so you could almost like reward it because if I were in fight camp I would 150% 200% and then what I used to do is then I'd go out for a couple of month after% >> and then I I'd only really have again like you said a bit of focus or purpose like to set the next year.

Yeah. But that's such a vicious cycle that that I did start that way. So I remember I started fighting on unlicensed and I were thinking right and and I were the same first couple of unlicensed I were like fully locked in for >> and then you'd have your fight. You'd win [\h__\h] whatever afterwards everyone would be celebrating you. You you were the man, aren't you?

You're the man. Yeah. You looking live life. You'd get on it this and that and it' be two three days and then you'd think [\h__\h] hell weekend. I ain't got no purpose.

Bang back on it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And that did happen and then you get back in gym and you'd stop. But then that's for me that's when I started doing it more and more and more. Then it got to the stage like maybe on the say the fifth four six month license fight on sly I'd have a little toy safe on my own and then that's when you're like [\h__\h] hell. That's when you know you got problems.

I remember one of them I fought Luke Dyson [\h__\h] night before we waiting I went to Nandos came out of Nando and [\h__\h] had a key. Do you know what I mean? I was still booked the next day and that's when you know but at the time I didn't see it like I had a problem. >> The only time I realized I had a serious problem is when >> that happened with that and that's that would >> it were a blessing in disguise. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't want it to happen >> but I kind of needed something as drastic as that to open my eyes up and think [\h__\h] now you're 30 year old grow the [\h__\h] up. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And that's what happened. >> And so what what were the first what were the first step after it?

Was that like after that day it were just bombs? That would it like a big life change? What were your first step from there? A >> after that after that incident it took two weeks and don't get me wrong I didn't get on it but for two weeks I was just [\h__\h] myself that he were going to die. >> Yeah. >> So I literally I'll be honest at one point I was considering if he dies I'm going to take my life here. You know what I mean?

That's how [\h__\h] it was. I thought and I've got kids and everything. How selfish it was. Um, and then yeah, so I just started doing a bit of research and actually if I'm being honest, like Instagram and social media gets a bad rep, but I'd seen people had been going sober and it's weird because I'd never really put it in Instagram and looked at it, but all these real started coming up about going sober. >> Yeah. Did thinking how do they know? >> And I'm like connecting the dots and I started following certain people, watching their journey impacting.

I I think as well though depending on like I bet our um sorry mate I bet our uh Instagram were were different when we were younger though. Do you know what I mean? So like I don't know if it's the algorithm or whatever but obviously you tend to find a lot of people in the same circle whether Instagram it works like that. You start watching the videos more. >> Yeah definitely >> you start watching videos more and then after that I start popping up more don't you? >> Absolutely. But the thing is I used to watch the the these sober videos used to come up.

These sober videos used to come up and I used to think [\h__\h] idiots. You know what I mean? Now I'm putting these sober videos up 24/7. I bet people are thinking the same about me. But now I actually don't give a [\h__\h] because it's corny to say.

And yeah, I might put things out about saying, "Oh, I've gone sober and I I don't sniff and this and that." But if that can help one person, >> yeah, >> I'm [\h__\h] happy with that. And I know it does cuz the amount of response of strangers that you don't know following you is [\h__\h] >> it's like you said cuz I I've obviously I've already like even from when we used to corner and going out and stuff like that. So I've obviously seen you at that place and I've never seen you as happy, energized just like small focus. So like even for people who know you as well, not just people who knew people who've seen you cuz they'll only ever see you from this. Yeah.

But like the shape that you've got in like I've seen you like at your probably your worst shape. You know what I mean? >> 10 kilograms. I was [\h__\h] I struggled to walk up the steps at Golden to even do a session. >> But that's what I mean. It's like it just changes. Don't get me wrong, you have to start with your mindset, don't you?

Yeah. If you don't fix your mindset and you have one foot in and one foot out and you're not fully committed, you won't get nowhere in life. So I changed my mindset and then obviously went sober went through sobriety and in return what that gave me was that enabled me to fix myself like my body. It it didn't just change me physically, it changed my mental perception, how I how I deal with my emotions. It changed my finances.

Like in the last I've been sober now just short of two years and I've [\h__\h] probably achieved more in the last two years than what I have in the last 15 years. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's crazy really. My only biggest surp. But no time like the present, mate, is it? >> Definitely. >> So, um, do you do you reckon like obviously you got a addictive personality, right? Yeah.

Yeah. So, do you do you reckon that's transferred over to being a good trait now though into your into your fitness? Like you've got to be plus I'm guessing >> you want to keep yourself busy. You put the 6:00 morning sessions on so you've got to be up. You got to be up early.

You know what I mean? Yeah. That's it. Course off. Especially when you're when you're in the classes and like you said the energy around the people that you're training.

I bet people um who you train now can see difference more than ever though, can't they? >> Absolutely. But I also believe that surround yourself with similar people because if you're in a circle of people that are doing it week in week out now it seems a bit cutthroat but I kind of feel like you have to cut them people in your life to get anywhere. >> And that's what I found at Burns Boot Camp. Everybody I'm golden to the people that train everybody that's training is trying to better themselves in one way or another. >> So you've all got you're all on the similar kind of path. Do you know what I'm saying? >> But yeah, going back to what you're saying there about uh addictive personality. [\h__\h] absolutely. Like if people will see me training, I train two times a day.

Yeah. Morning and night. I'll have and I'll do that six days six days a week and I'll have a Sunday off. And yeah, that's probably not the greatest structure for your body. >> But I need that mentally cuz if not I'm not saying I'd ever go back to it, but I'll have some >> Yeah. Well, that's that will be uh that going to be my question then, mate.

Do you ever do you ever miss it though? Do you know? Like >> I've had passing thoughts. Yeah. Yeah.

I thought for literally 30 [\h__\h] odd seconds thought, I wonder if I had the line whether I'd just have one line and stop. And then I think to myself, you know, [\h__\h] up. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Stop lying to yourself. You know what I mean? >> Has there been any odd situ What's like hardest situation that you've been in? So like I'm just going to take a small scale of this cuz um so like I went to a wedding do weekend and I'm not fighting well like June but I'm just not a big I'm not a drink.

Like seriously I don't really I don't drink anymore. Like really like I think I only drunk I drunk all day last year and then one other time at races like after like six or seven months a year I drunk once and then I had a I had like bit of a bit of a rubbish month over December in terms of like drinking and but >> a lot of people do. >> Yeah. Yeah. But again I already hopefully like you as you know turning professional at boxing like as long as I'm professional I'll never I won't touch a drink. >> Uh the thing with you right when you're locked in you are [\h__\h] ridiculous. >> Yeah. Yeah.

And I just feel like like I went out the weekend and me misses she had a good time. She had a few drinks. She didn't really drink at all anyway, but she did. It were good to see her unwind. It gets to a point sometimes then where you think >> it probably would be it' have been good to have a couple of drinks but >> to socialize. >> Yeah, of course.

But not not to get hammered off thinking cuz I've made some of my worst decisions drinking me and you know one of my worst decisions has come from it. >> Yeah. And so I just feel like what have you been in any of them situations where you where you've where you've struggled more than others or do you do you try and >> cuz she'll have been invited to weddings and stuff. It's free bar and perfect. The only the only real struggle >> that I had right was well this is how I got there for six months into sobriety. I cut everyone and everything off.

Yeah. I had no social life. I didn't [\h__\h] go anywhere. I didn't go to boxing shows. I didn't do this.

And I remember the first boxing show I went to, I were cornering, do you remember Ryan Win Stanley? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I were cornering him on um I think it could have been Mark Holmes's show. >> And everybody, you know what? It's like everyone in the crowd's [\h__\h] on it. Yeah. That everyone's off.

They're going, "Oh, Pinball, this and that." Know when you're on this subra. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And it's like you're trying to explain. People are trying to give you all sorts and you're trying to explain you don't want it. And they're looking at you like [\h__\h] something up with them. You don't want it. >> Yeah. and that were the hardest when it was but really it was probably a bit of peer pressure but I just got through it didn't do it and then the next day I was like [\h__\h] hell >> with that probably hardest barrier that you've had to overcome then and then was that the big one where you thought if I can do it that's I think I can do >> yeah and then and then what I what started happening after that is once I started getting six seven months in I started putting it on my Instagram that I've gone sober and this and that and then I've kind of felt like that >> it's by your person >> yeah that opened me up for people not kind of pushing it on me.

Do you know what I'm saying? I'm not saying people back in the day come someone could have said John and said give me full back. >> You know what I mean? Whereas, but when I put it out there that I was doing it, that I was going sober, it kind of slowed down and it helped a little bit. But this is this is the thing with like social media. Like some people >> they'll see your content and they'll support you on the journey, but you'll have some people that are close to you that are quite hating on you for the fact he's shooting down that route.

Let's say Russ is. Yeah. >> Yeah. Of course is. I think people um they see that that well they don't want to make the change do they have something to say about that you're so it's just weird how now like if you're eating good or you train all the time you all seem to be outsider and it's more normal now >> to be out on drinking drugs which is [\h__\h] crazy really like when whenever we're a thing but so we got about another 10 minutes bro so what I want to what I want to cover before it is like what's the dream mate what do what do you want to do after this I mean like not after what What's >> up towards the pinnacle? Is it?

Is you just enjoying the journey? Has you got Have you got your own >> So, yeah, I've got goals. I've got dreams. I think if you ain't got goals, you haven't really got much purpose, have you? It's running out.

I mean, you've got to have you've got to have a vision. Like, I've I'll You've obviously read probably read the book called The Secret Manifestation. I think everybody has. I'll manifest my goals every day. And one of my main to be honest, one of my goals was to be a coach.

One of my goals was to have 25 30 plus clients a week, which I I've got them. Yeah. But once you start hitting them goals, you have to >> again drill drilled into it more and go off more. So on my list, obviously I've got personal ones related to family and stuff like that and and holidays and all them kinds of things like everyone else. But in the fitness side of it, I just want to own my own gym.

I want to have my own people working for me. But I don't want to just be about fitness. Like my brand ain't about getting you fit. My brand is taking you from an average mindset to a savage. >> Like I want to turn people from thinking they can't do something to [\h__\h] knowing that they can do it. >> That's my goal. Whether that be one, like I said, whether that be one person, 10 people, and 100 people.

That's all I want to do. I just want people to realize that >> anybody can do it. >> Yeah. >> Simple as >> that. And what And tell me tell me about because you've got a community page, don't you? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I've set up, it's actually only been running four weeks now.

Uh, a lady helped me set it up. I actually train her son. He's one of my clients and she builds websites and things like that. And yeah, I sell a a so a website for my boxing page to book on and I have a community. It's an app.

So, they log into the community. It helps them with sobriety. It helps them. It helps them track how you how well they're doing, how many days clean and sober they are. But what it does is say if he's struggling, it's got like a bit of a chat on there where you can ask it's got a bit of a chat on there.

Is that all right? >> Yeah, you're all right, mate. >> Yeah, it's got a bit of a chat on the app where it'll so if someone's struggling it, they'll click a thing and they'll say, "I'm struggling today. I feel like having a dream car going out and it'll tell them >> what would it'll tell them the benefits of not doing it and and and how they'll regret it in the morning." It'll just have loads of different advice on it that will help them. And I know cuz sometimes as a person, right, if you want to go if if you got an addictive personality and you want to go out and you want to get on it. Yeah. Right.

But your friends aren't doing it. You are going to ring them up and say, "Oh, I'm dying to just have a line of cow." >> Yeah. >> Whereas you have something hilarious quite personal and you just go on and it's quite secretive and it'll help you get through because all you need to get through is the next 10 minutes, the next 20 minutes and then them thoughts will pass. Do you know what I mean? So yeah. So that's the app I've got.

Uh, and obviously in the app it has all your fitness plans, training plans. >> Have you got a goal to scale that like as big as you want or >> I just want to be honest, I just want to get as many people in that community as possible because I feel like the more people in the community at the minute there's about 25 people in the community in in the app, which isn't bad to say it's been running four weeks, but it will build. It'll build. It'll build. It's a longterm kind of mate. Look at this podcast that way.

Do it like >> and the thing is as well with this. >> Yeah, I'm trying mate. But the thing that's the thing is um if you if you love doing it, it's not so much about you. Enjoy it, mate. You enjoy it. >> And there's no there's no pressure to build it because you can do it forever and over time just doing it time and time and time. There's only one way it can do is is to grow.

That's it. >> Do you know what I think? It's momentum. Once you've got momentum and the ball's rolling, it's hard to stop something. >> Only takes one day for something to click as well, doesn't it? Do you know what I mean? like you get you get caught by the right person, right eyes, someone comes in and wants to project it out to world or whatever. You never know, day. >> It's funny you actually say about like um it it not being a job because yesterday with my birthday, I were [\h__\h] 39 year old and I I had clients in and loads of people wishing me happy birthday and someone messaged me and they said, "Oh my god, you're working on your birthday." And I were like, "Well, I'm not really working." She were like, "Well, you are you've got clients in?" And I went, well, I don't really see it as a job.

Even though, yeah, I'm getting paid. I've got bills to pay. I need that money coming in. But for me, cuz I enjoy it so much, but I probably pay them to get them. Do you know what I mean?

I freaking love it. So, it ain't a job to me. And that's how that's why I know that I'll never burn out >> doing it. Like I might listen to people's problems and think [\h__\h] s here and there but I can't burn out cuz I just love it about not as long as you want to like until again like you've just said like you you will get the gym. I have no doubt you'll get your own gym and that but you'll find someone else to do as well.

Do you know what I mean? You never you'll never you don't get your own gym and go that's me done and then me down. >> That's it retire suck you know. But yeah it's just [\h__\h] it's life in it. You you've got to have goals. You've got to keep achieving them.

And if you don't have even if you don't hit your goals, right? If you haven't got the goals there in the first place. >> That's what I >> I'd rather try and hit something and not reach it then not have nothing. >> I try and say to everyone it's you've got to try enjoy the journey. Aren't you? Like that's the thing is I'm always I'm always trying to be fair. I'm a bit of a weird patch at minute because I'm I'm waiting for this pro card news to come back and then I'm wait Oh god.

Yeah. Well, it's supposed to be 11th of February. So um anyone who didn't know now you know >> how are you now >> but yeah so until it comes through like there's no confirmation yet until that comes through but >> you're sort of in him I'm in limbo land where I'm like I love the trick yeah but I want I want the life >> of like that so I' I've pt I worked in gym since I was 15 I've been pinging like 15 years and I've done the same thing all >> I've got a question for you though do you think that you will when you're pro will you still continue PT >> I have to Yeah, >> I have to. >> I It's hard, isn't it? Very, don't get me wrong, if you make it big big time, >> you can't [\h__\h] change it, would you? You'd have to feel. >> Yeah, it's more Yeah.

More It's more for performance. >> Yeah. But also, this is the thing like when you're starting off in that pro game, it's not easy money, is it? No, it be right about it. It's not. >> I've just literally had this conversation with with PL says, "Mate, we need to start looking at some sponsors and that cuz I' I'd love at least one year. It might not be this year, but I want a one. >> Anyone who knows me wants to sponsor, right? >> Yeah.

Yes. >> Yeah. Get in touch. Get a great guy. Boxer in the Dan. No, he's not.

He's a quality boxer. >> Yeah. No. So, um I just want at least one year in my life living like a true professional athlete where uh that's me that's the single most important thing. And I can still have the gym. I can still teach classes.

But >> you're flexible with it, aren't you? >> Yeah. But just not not taking the wear and tear in your arms. Like I've just got unboxed today and then I've got so once this is done I've got sessions from like like I said like 20 20 3 on through till 9:00 no gap so that I'm in first thing at 7 I think I've got 12 sessions booked into it's like and you I've got to perform in between. >> And this is the thing like I'm saying about you don't burn out because when you're in the sessions cuz you're training people because you enjoy it but what you do realize is when you finish and there's no clients and you've gone home. Yeah. >> Yeah. And the thing is as well mate you know I like to recover. >> Yeah. when I were younger as well.

Like I could just go home and I could just sit down. I've got your kids on that now and on there's no break is there. There's zero break. Zero break. >> I know exactly what you mean there. >> My biggest break would be half an hour leg on this and this something here mate. Like if anyone could see any other time, mate, I'm off. >> Yeah.

As soon as that camera's off. Yeah. If I've got even if I've got half an hour, I can I'm I'm that busy, mate. I can honestly I could set an alarm for 10 minutes. >> Do you know what you are as a guy though? You're always like you're here, you're there, you're here.

You've got 2 minutes here. I've got to go. >> Well, like like I said to you, mate, I've uh so I were in here this morning at 7:00 and then nicked for some breakfast. Come straight back. Had sessions all the way up to when I was going to lead to golden team to box straight in here doing the podcast. >> She saw right that that's part of the journey. All them rushing about here, not having time for yourself.

This is the process. This is the journey. This is the grind. You know what they say. And without any of this, >> you you need to do this to get to the end. >> And like I like them photos where it's like, you know, people in um you know, like an arena and it says to get it first, you've got to do it and it's a [\h__\h] all like working men's clubs and I love that sort of thing.

I just wish sometimes I think skip kind of done with them. Yeah. Let me >> Yeah, cuz I left it like like yourself. If we've left it to I mean better better now than never but left it late to start making be 33 this year. >> 33. Yes.

So you really need to get rolling now. Don't you >> at a professional level like like you're talking you're 35 is going to be an absolute peak in it. I I don't want to box after I'm 35. So like went boras me. >> You need to have a solid year of getting your license, don't you? >> Yeah. Well, you need to you need to get coming up behind her a little bit and then >> though because like the problems you've gone through getting this license now it's like not just you like look at Danny as well one minute they're saying you got what did they say you got to have 20 unlicensed >> Yeah.

No. Yeah. So at first you you could have just had one fight. So when I when I first went to apply so uh Mushy no mushy. So he went in he'd had four unlicensed one two lost two uh got straight through for his pros.

Right. So I I broke my leg and then they changed the rules like 3 months later that you got like unlicensed don't exist anymore. It's >> see I always thought that unlicensed doubled amateur. So every two unlicensed was the equivalent of one picture. That's what I thought. >> Absolutely scrapped it now.

So basically if he does any unlicensed license go back into >> unlicensed now and how they talk about it is like blasphemy like >> well mad cuz Fabio Worldly came from [\h__\h] >> unsh is Davis. Yeah. So none of them had any amateur fights. Um and I'd had I think I were with me MMA fights on that as well. I'd had 16 16 fights already.

I'd never been beaten boxing. >> Did the class MMA towards it? >> Well they were MMA amateurs as well. used to be able to only you only have to have an MMA fight and then you could still go in for an interview and go in front of board. >> It's mass. You know what it is though? It's all money and that >> Yeah, I've took I've took the long I think it's all this YouTube boxing me that's changed it which so it should I feel like >> what do you think to the YouTube boxing? Do you agree with me? >> Jesus mate that is another podcast on its own and it I think I'm all down for it mate. >> I am same. >> It brings more nice to it and I'll be honest mate to watching it >> mate. My my I get pissed off sometimes that I'm more entertain that I'm more hyped up about watching [\h__\h] Jake Paul find someone else.

We all been like two absolute banners that have trained all life. >> Hey, we all we all joke, don't we? And we're like Auntie Joshua versus Jake Paul. But who who didn't want to watch it? Oh, [\h__\h] >> who didn't want to watch it. Yeah.

So, but um yeah, we'll have to do that again and have a proper podcast on that alone. But [\h__\h] hell, we're here for two hours about that one. >> Oh, man. I could talk to you forever anyway, bro. But um you just tell us where to to wrap it up, bro. Where where can everyone find you?

What's your app called? >> So I'm on Instagram, uh Penos Boxing and Fitness. Uh I box out of Golden Team. I work out a Golden Team gym. Uh I run privates out there. I run a group boxing class on a Wednesday at Burns Boot Camp, which is in Wakefield.

Uh if anybody wants to see my website and my app if you go on to my Instagram or my Tik Tok, you'll see the the links to buy in the bio. Yeah. And thanks for watching. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Well, everyone, as always, like and subscribe, Pembo. >> Thank you. Right.

It's been a pleasure. >> Thank you everybody. See you next time.